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Covid Over in England

Post by Ace2Ace » Jan Thu 27, 2022 1:53 pm

They finally get it. Covid is just a nasty flu. No need to force everyone to get vaccinated. Let the body generate its own antibody.

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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Graveller » Jan Thu 27, 2022 3:49 pm

Ace2Ace wrote:
Jan Thu 27, 2022 1:53 pm
They finally get it. Covid is just a nasty flu. No need to force everyone to get vaccinated. Let the body generate its own antibody.
1) this variant is indeed nothing more than a bad flu BECAUSE ALMOST EVERYONE IS TRIPLE VACCINATED… they still have around 250 deaths per day… mainly unvaccinated people. But U.K. government does not care about the unvaccinated ones anymore. Let them die, they asked for it and the rest can live more normal again. My opinion too… we, the vaccinated ones are sufficiently protected, and by opening it all, we make sure that everyone - including the antivaxxers - get it. There is evidence that the combo of vaccination, followed by infection, creates some super immunity that is protective against a lot of variants.
Perfect: personally I look forward to the reopening here too so we can make sure that the few remain8ng non-vaccers get it… badly…

2) a vaccine is NOT an antibody. A vaccine makes your body produce antibodies. And they are the same as those you make when infected. The difference? With a vaccine you are not fighting a deadly disease at the same time.
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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Graveller » Jan Thu 27, 2022 3:52 pm

Ps: it is the second time that U.K. government declared that all was over and no masks were needed anymore, and that they would never return to such measures… six months later, with their healthcare system on the brink, the rules were all back.
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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Ace2Ace » Jan Thu 27, 2022 5:31 pm

People are not dying in mass in Tanzania, Ethiopia, Ghana, Mali, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc, where we see huge crowds on the street. No one is wearing mask. thousands of people just completed the yearly Grand 10-km rally in Ethiopia and no one was wearing a mask. And we are not hearing of people falling like flies.

It's like covid variants are appearing in countries where lots of people get vaccinated.
I wonder how many people were dying of flu every year in Europe and USA, before this covid. All those people are now considered victims of covid.

France is saying now that people like Djokovic can enter the country, because they survived covid without the vaccine.... which makes sense. Crazy Biden should enact that policy. Enough of this mess.

Covid vaccination should be voluntary. And those who are vaccinated will have to get a booster every year, just like those who get flu vaccine every year. It's their choice. Some of us have been fine without the flu vaccine... and are doing fine without the covid vaccine.

At work, we've are told we can now go to the office if we want to. All is open. And we are saying "no thanks". :) Working from home is nice. We've been doing it for 2 years. Go to the office to do what?

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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Joylan1 » Jan Thu 27, 2022 8:25 pm

They should call it was it is a Covid shot.

They're starting to catch the MASSIVE amount of fraud going on with fake Covid testing.

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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Graveller » Jan Fri 28, 2022 2:50 am

Ace2Ace wrote:
Jan Thu 27, 2022 5:31 pm
People are not dying in mass in Tanzania, Ethiopia, Ghana, Mali, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc, where we see huge crowds on the street. No one is wearing mask. thousands of people just completed the yearly Grand 10-km rally in Ethiopia and no one was wearing a mask. And we are not hearing of people falling like flies.
Different demographics (less old people = less deaths), different climate (aerosols evaporate fast, killing the virus instantly , different social structure (less travelling = less spread), healthcare and testing negligible compared to the West (if you hardly have hospitals and testing facilities, you cannot get comparable numbers). But look at South Africa, Maroc, Algeria, Egypt,... there you can throw out your theory out of the window.
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It's like covid variants are appearing in countries where lots of people get vaccinated.
The most dangerous mutant (Delta) so far that combined the severity of the original version with increased infection potential, originated in India, was detected in late 2020 when there was no vaccine yet....

Another conspiracy theory debunked in seconds...

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I wonder how many people were dying of flu every year in Europe and USA, before this covid. All those people are now considered victims of covid.
How many died? well, in my whole lifetime - even during the worst flu seasons - our ICU capacity was never under threat. During the pandemic, we had that problem twice.

So the answer is: way less due to flu than due to Covid. Obviously...
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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Ace2Ace » Jan Fri 28, 2022 9:59 am

The most dangerous mutant (Delta) so far that combined the severity of the original version with increased infection potential, originated in India, was detected in late 2020 when there was no vaccine yet...
Last news in India since December is that covid is no longer causing havoc.

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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Ace2Ace » Jan Fri 28, 2022 10:08 am

Different demographics (less old people = less deaths), different climate (aerosols evaporate fast, killing the virus instantly , different social structure (less travelling = less spread), healthcare and testing negligible compared to the West (if you hardly have hospitals and testing facilities, you cannot get comparable numbers). But look at South Africa, Maroc, Algeria, Egypt,... there you can throw out your theory out of the window.
South Africa was the first country on that continent to rush to the vaccine. And got the worst variant. No coincidence.

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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Graveller » Jan Fri 28, 2022 5:25 pm

Omicron is the best variant, given the fact is does not attack the lungs but the throat.

Delta was the worst, and originated in India in 2030 when there zero no vaccines yet.
So YOUR claim that variants emerge in countries with high vaccination rate, is TOTAL nonsense.

And if you Google the words “India Covid rate” you can see that the number of new cases at this very moment are close to record height since the start of the pandemic.

Why do you insist on posting fake news? Show me a graph that shows that India doing well. I showed you how to find the opposite.
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Re: Covid Over in England

Post by Graveller » Jan Fri 28, 2022 5:36 pm

Also, everyone reading this: Google “South Africa covid death rate”

As you can see on the graph, despite infecting so many more people, the death rate due to Omicron - who emerged there in November - caused a 4th peak that was not even close to some of the previous peaks from other variants that caused less infections.

Again, it takes me 2 minutes to find the facts that totally disprove the conspiracy fake news claim that The South African mutant is the worst.
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