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Posted: Feb Tue 28, 2017 8:55 am       ITF general talks
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I was up early this morning and decided to check a few streams. What a surprise! !!
Sharipova vs hsieh.... I turned it off after watching 1 service game from each.  Ultimate pushers. They are not even Top-100 material in my book.
Svitolina vs some girl.... boring. 1 game is enough.

Then I saw some ITF names I had not noticed before and decided to check out the match.
What a surprise! !!! Finally a tennis match. 2 very fine power players at each others throats. The serve. The returns. The take-no-prisoner ground strokes... charging the net at every opportunity.. And neither of them was spraying. Is this for real? What the heck! !!

So I looked them up at the WTA site. They are both 19.  what??? very strange.!!!!
One is ranked 1200+ from France.
The other 800+ from Switzerland.
This is unreal. They are both wayyyyyy better than Sharipova and hsieh and a bunch top-150s.
What's the story here? These 19-year old should be out of ITF by now, specially the one ranked 1200+. She's the biggest returner I have seen at the ITF level, this French girl.

This is mystery to me. You can't play this kind of tennis and not be at least top-100 at 19.
Check out Mathilde and Maina
(Let me get the last names rights) Smile Smile

Edit....
Mathilde Armitano --- French.  most dangerous returner at ITF. Even Aiva doesn't have that kind of return
Maina Karamoko --- Switzerland.  very fine power player. (needs to place net balls better. tends to hit it straight to her opponent)
Both ITF 800+. Can't explain it, folks.

Note: Maina won the first set. Was serving for the match at 5-4 30-30 and fell hard. Couldn't get up right away. 2 Trainers came on court and it took a while for her to get up, walk it off and restart play. She was not the same player after that. Got broken. Took it to a tiebreak and lost the set.
She lost a hard fought 3rd set. This match was worthy of a WTA top-100. Still can't believe I was watching ITF lower ranked girls.
     


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Posted: Feb Tue 28, 2017 8:59 am       
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WTA is a strange place.
Errani and Navarro make the top-10.
Hsieh and Diyaz make top 100, top-50, even top-32.
But Amitano and Maina are 1000+. Smile Or is this one of those days everything is landing? Smile Smile These girls are better than Puig and Giorgi. lol lol. Some fine power game to go along with those huge returns and serves.

Advice to ITF girls: forget power tennis. Push, push, push and you'll get out of ITF.
Once you reach top-100, then play your power game. Otherwise, you'll turn 28 still driving around ITF events.Sad Sad
     


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Posted: Feb Tue 28, 2017 9:27 am       
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@ Ace2Ace:
 
Look at my comment on Kalinskaya earlier today in Kuala Lumpur.  18y old: played already 8 ITF finals, and won 4 of them....

you should try to find highlights of her match vs Garcia today.... I think you'll like her.
     

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Posted: Feb Tue 28, 2017 9:56 am       
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Sure ... I'll look her up.
The more power players, the more fun.
Couldn't believe Hsieh vs Sharipova ... The balls were so slow it's not even funny.
     


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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 9:46 am       
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A semi final 3-set thriller between Aiava and the brazilian Kvitova, Haddad Maia Beatriz.
What a match, folks !!!! Better than the pushing fest we endure at WTA tournaments!.

Vondroussova, in the other Semi Final, was just too much for her opponent. These girls are good.

Add another French player Lechemia, one fine, craftly lefty youngster and you have some fine fine ball hitters coming down the pipe.

I'll repeat my message to the current slamless top-10: hurry up to steal one, because in about 2  years or so, it will be too late for you. You got tough competition coming.
     


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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 10:38 am       Re:ITF general talks
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It's rather hilarious that Ace is now raving about players on the lower ITF tour after he said it should be abolished not too long ago. Laughing

15-year-old Amanda Anisimova has reached her first professional final in Brazil. This is her path to the final:

QR2: 6-0 6-0
QRF: 6-0 6-0
R1: 6-4 6-1
R2: 6-2 6-2
QF: 6-1 6-2
SF: 6-2 6-1

She just beat #89 Khromacheva in the SF.
     
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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 12:32 pm       
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There you go again.
Never said ITF should be abolished. I said it should have its own ranking system. And the top ITF players at the end of the season should move to the WTA, while the bottom of the WTA moves to ITF.
     


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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 1:15 pm       
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I don't see anything special yet. Just a girl with nice ground strokes, nice ball control.
Maybe Anisimova (in black here) has improved since this match.

     


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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 1:19 pm       
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Will have a better idea when she faces Kuzmova, Aiava, Haddad, Lemechia, Vondrousova ... Armitano ..
I want to see how she handles the raw power of those other youngsters.
so far, I see nice groundies .. stable game... spreads the court nicely...No devastating serves and returns. I like to see those as part of the package, not just never ending ground strokes.
     


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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 1:26 pm       
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same as for Potapova.


Edit:

Watching this highlight, I thought Potapova's opponent, Yastremska, was the better player. Never seen that name before... So I checked the current ranking.

Ranking As of Feb 28 2017:

316    Dayana Yastremska    5/15/2000    UKR    132
725    Amanda Anisimova    8/31/2001    USA    24
849    Anastasia Potapova    3/30/2001    RUS    14
Add 30 points so far to both Anisimova and Potapova for making the Final. the winner gets an additional 20 points. Which moves both in the #500s



     


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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 1:42 pm       
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Compare the potential to this



     


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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 1:49 pm       
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@ Ace2Ace:
 
Well, Aiava is a year older than both of them, and at this point when they're all growing and developing so rapidly, that makes a huge difference. I saw Anisimova play much better than in that highlight at the US Open. She has huge power on her serve and groundstrokes even at this age.
     
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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 1:51 pm       Re:ITF general talks
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gold fangs wrote:
Haddad Maia has had awful luck with injuries in her career. But she's also been awfully slow to find her form every time she's come back from them. So on the one hand her breakthrough has been delayed because of health and bad luck but on the other, even allowing for that some of her bad results indicate mental or technical weaknesses that will follow her on to the WTA Tour anyway.

To me Haddad Maia looks like the kind of BBB capable of big results when she gets going - but Aiava and Vondrousova look more solid, just as much power but fewer weaknesses.

The fourth SFist Andrianjafitrimo is a wild card - still young enough to be called promising but her game is more interesting with more components to fall into place.
Interesting... Didn't know Haddad's history... Injuries are not tennis players' best friends. Sad
     


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Posted: Mar Sat 04, 2017 1:53 pm       
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@ RU90:
 
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Well, Aiava is a year older than both of them, and at this point when they're all growing and developing so rapidly, that makes a huge difference. I saw Anisimova play much better than in that highlight at the US Open. She has huge power on her serve and groundstrokes even at this age.
Of course they'll get stronger. For now, I'll wait to see more of Anisimova and Potapova.
     
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Posted: Mar Sun 05, 2017 10:20 am       
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Watch out, Wozniacki, Radwanska and Co. Haddad is coming for your wigs.. .
Haddad Maia got a WC in Miami Main Draw.
The brazilian Kvitova is almost her twin sister: same height; same devastating lefty forehand and serve; same service motion; same inconsistency. Can play the most devastating match one day, and go off to the back seat the next. Smile
Will be interesting to see which one shows up in Miami. Pushers, watch out!!

Article:

Brazilian number one seed Beatriz Haddad-Maia has taken out the 2017 Honeycomb.Design Clare Valley Women’s Tennis International singles title in dominant fashion, beating 17-year-old Czech Marketa Vondrousova 6-2 6-2.

Haddad-Maia, who also won the doubles title this week with Genevieve Lorbergs, was in sizzling form during the match, keeping Vondrousova on the back foot with her blistering forehand.

The Brazillian 20-yo became a crowd favourite through the week in Clare and will now focus her attention on the Miami Open, where she has been awarded a main draw wildcard.

For Vondrousova it was a disappointing end to a good week and with two singles titles to her name so far in 2017, she looks to be tracking toward a significant climb up the rankings.
     


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