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Post by Ace2Ace » Feb Tue 28, 2017 7:55 am

I was up early this morning and decided to check a few streams. What a surprise! !!
Sharipova vs hsieh.... I turned it off after watching 1 service game from each.  Ultimate pushers. They are not even Top-100 material in my book.
Svitolina vs some girl.... boring. 1 game is enough.

Then I saw some ITF names I had not noticed before and decided to check out the match.
What a surprise! !!! Finally a tennis match. 2 very fine power players at each others throats. The serve. The returns. The take-no-prisoner ground strokes... charging the net at every opportunity.. <b>And neither of them was spraying</b>. Is this for real? What the heck! !!

So I looked them up at the WTA site. They are both 19.  what??? very strange.!!!!
One is ranked 1200+ from France.
The other 800+ from Switzerland.
This is unreal. They are both wayyyyyy better than Sharipova and hsieh and a bunch top-150s.
What's the story here? These 19-year old should be out of ITF by now, specially the one ranked 1200+. She's the biggest returner I have seen at the ITF level, this French girl.

This is mystery to me. You can't play this kind of tennis and not be at least top-100 at 19.
Check out Mathilde and Maina
(Let me get the last names rights) :) :)

Edit....
Mathilde Armitano --- French.  most dangerous returner at ITF. Even Aiva doesn't have that kind of return
Maina Karamoko --- Switzerland.  very fine power player. (needs to place net balls better. tends to hit it straight to her opponent)
Both ITF 800+. Can't explain it, folks.

Note: Maina won the first set. Was serving for the match at 5-4 30-30 and fell hard. Couldn't get up right away. 2 Trainers came on court and it took a while for her to get up, walk it off and restart play. She was not the same player after that. Got broken. Took it to a tiebreak and lost the set.
She lost a hard fought 3rd set. This match was worthy of a WTA top-100. Still can't believe I was watching ITF lower ranked girls.
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Post by Ace2Ace » Feb Tue 28, 2017 7:59 am

WTA is a strange place.
Errani and Navarro make the top-10.
Hsieh and Diyaz make top 100, top-50, even top-32.
But Amitano and Maina are 1000+. :) Or is this one of those days everything is landing? :) :) These girls are better than Puig and Giorgi. lol lol. Some fine power game to go along with those huge returns and serves.

Advice to ITF girls: forget power tennis. Push, push, push and you'll get out of ITF.
Once you reach top-100, then play your power game. Otherwise, you'll turn 28 still driving around ITF events.:( :(
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Post by Graveller » Feb Tue 28, 2017 8:27 am

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Post by Ace2Ace » Feb Tue 28, 2017 8:56 am

Sure ... I'll look her up.
The more power players, the more fun.
Couldn't believe Hsieh vs Sharipova ... The balls were so slow it's not even funny.
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Post by Ace2Ace » Mar Sat 04, 2017 8:46 am

A semi final 3-set thriller between Aiava and the brazilian Kvitova, Haddad Maia Beatriz.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#What a match, folks !!!! Better than the pushing fest we endure at WTA tournaments!.#ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl#Vondroussova, in the other Semi Final, was just too much for her opponent. These girls are good.#ed_op#br#ed_cl# #ed_op#br#ed_cl#Add another French player Lechemia, one fine, craftly lefty youngster and you have some fine fine ball hitters coming down the pipe.#ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl#I'll repeat my message to the current slamless top-10: hurry up to steal one, because in about 2&nbsp; years or so, it will be too late for you. You got tough competition coming.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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Re:ITF general talks

Post by RU90 » Mar Sat 04, 2017 9:38 am

It's rather hilarious that Ace is now raving about players on the lower ITF tour after he said it should be abolished not too long ago. :lol:

15-year-old Amanda Anisimova has reached her first professional final in Brazil. This is her path to the final:

QR2: 6-0 6-0
QRF: 6-0 6-0
R1: 6-4 6-1
R2: 6-2 6-2
QF: 6-1 6-2
SF: 6-2 6-1

She just beat #89 Khromacheva in the SF.

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Post by Ace2Ace » Mar Sat 04, 2017 11:32 am

There you go again. #ed_op#br#ed_cl#Never said ITF should be abolished. I said it should have its own ranking system. And the top ITF players at the end of the season should move to the WTA, while the bottom of the WTA moves to ITF.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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Post by Ace2Ace » Mar Sat 04, 2017 12:15 pm

#ed_op#iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HH4QjsBgMwk" allowfullscreen="" height="360" frameborder="0" width="640"#ed_cl##ed_op#/iframe#ed_cl##ed_op#p#ed_cl#I don't see anything special yet. Just a girl with nice ground strokes, nice ball control.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#Maybe Anisimova (in black here) has improved since this match.

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Post by Ace2Ace » Mar Sat 04, 2017 12:19 pm

Will have a better idea when she faces Kuzmova, Aiava, Haddad, Lemechia, Vondrousova ... Armitano ..#ed_op#br#ed_cl#I want to see how she handles the raw power of those other youngsters.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#so far, I see nice groundies .. stable game... spreads the court nicely...No devastating serves and returns. I like to see those as part of the package, not just never ending ground strokes.#ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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Post by Ace2Ace » Mar Sat 04, 2017 12:26 pm

same as for Potapova.#ed_op#p#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5zNod69fJ4M" allowfullscreen="" height="360" frameborder="0" width="640"#ed_cl##ed_op#/iframe#ed_cl##ed_op#/p#ed_cl##ed_op#p#ed_cl#Edit:#ed_op#/p#ed_cl##ed_op#p#ed_cl#Watching this highlight, I thought Potapova's opponent, Yastremska, was the better player. Never seen that name before... So I checked the current ranking.#ed_op#/p#ed_cl##ed_op#p#ed_cl# Ranking As of Feb 28 2017:#ed_op#/p#ed_cl##ed_op#p#ed_cl#316&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dayana Yastremska&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5/15/2000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UKR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 132#ed_op#br#ed_cl#725&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Amanda Anisimova&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8/31/2001&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; USA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 24#ed_op#br#ed_cl#849&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Anastasia Potapova&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/30/2001&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RUS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14#ed_op#br#ed_cl#Add 30 points so far to both Anisimova and Potapova for making the Final. the winner gets an additional 20 points. Which moves both in the #500s#ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/p#ed_cl#
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