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Wimbledon SkanContest: Please ask your questions here or create a thread in this group. It's easier to follow.
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 12:45 am |
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| serenarulz09 wrote: | I have a question and I didn't want to start another thread and since it's to do with Wimbledon I am here.
On the skancan contest I am currently number 3 with 136 domination points with #2 having 148...
But I have 1. Venus 2. Andy Roddick 3. Serena 4. Nadal 5. Federer 6. Henin
and number 2 has :
1. Federer 2. Kim 3. Andy M4. Venus 5. Azarenka 6. Andy Roddick....
I was just wondering how number 2 has more domination points when his/her 1 pick barely one and my number 1 won easily... both our number 2's won easily... his/her number 4 won easily... my 5th barely won... and my 6th won and his/her 6th won easily... It doesn't add up is there something I might be forgetting?
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The point calculation is not straight forward... Too complicated to explain. But everyone plays under the same rules. So...
Domination points have to do about the number of games won by each player, and their positions on your team. The higher the player on the team and the wider his margin of victory, the more points your team collects from him.
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 9:03 am |
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| Okay thanks for clearing that up. So basically you should always put 3 guys on top since they play 3 sets? And if they go 5 sets then the better, because they won more games? Doesn't sound like much of a domination. |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 9:08 am |
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That's how it was before the game was automated.... The men had the advantage... We've corrected that since the automation. We first convert everything to 3 sets, before further calculations.
Every game is graded as a 3-setter. |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 9:18 am |
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| serenarulz09 wrote: | | Okay thanks for clearing that up. So basically you should always put 3 guys on top since they play 3 sets? And if they go 5 sets then the better, because they won more games? Doesn't sound like much of a domination. |
No... it doesn't work by the number of games they win. You're scored by the # of games they won compared to the # of games their opponent won.
Example... Serena wins 6-0 6-0. She won 12 games, her opponent won 0. The difference is 12.
If she's #1 on your team, your domination score would be 12 x 6 = 72
If she's #2 on your team, your domination score would be 12 x 5 = 60
If she's #6 on your team, your domination score would be 12 x 1 = 12
The domination 'multiplier' is 6/5/4/3/2/1, depending on where you placed them on your team. That's why placing them is important.
Now another example... Roger is #1 on your team, and wins 7-6 7-6 7-6. He won more games than Serena did, but your domination points would be fewer. He won 21 games to his opponent's 18. The difference is 3. So you would get 18 points (3 x 6). So winning more games doesn't necessarily mean you get more domination points.
I might be a little off with my calculations but I'm not sure... but I think it's scored similarly to that. ^^^
Edit: I just checked a few of the totals... I think the formula's a little different than what I just said.... I think that's how it used to be scored, but I guess it isn't like that anymore. But still, putting the women high on your team won't necessarily hurt you. 
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 10:29 am |
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All you said is correct Footsoldier.
for instance, Serena just won 6-0 6-4. That's 12-4... yielding a differential of 8 points.
We convert that to a 3 set: (8/2) x 3 = 12. The adjusted differential is 12 instead of 8.
So depending on where Serena is placed on the team, the domination point for that match is:
Player 1 - 12 x 6 =72
Player 2 - 12 x 5 = 60
Player 3 - 12 x 4 =48
Player 4 - 12 x 3 = 36
Player 5 - 12 x 2 = 24
Player 6 - 12 x 1 = 12 points |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 10:48 am |
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| well thanks you two I do understand it a little more now. I know that next time I will pick the top 2 as guys, because it really seems to favor them. I still don't understand how Justine Henin won 6-4, 6-3 and got the same amount of domination points as Federer who won 5-7, 4-6, 6-4, 7-6, 6-0... So how do you choose which 3 sets of the 5 to count? And I don't see How Federer got 7 for his and Andy only got 11 for his very dominate performance. |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 10:49 am |
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| it doesn't favor guys... all the scores are converted to 3 sets. |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 10:57 am |
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| Well shouldn't that make Federer 3 domination points instead of 7? He won 5-7, 4-6, 6-4, 7-6, 6-0 I think? That's 28 to 23 games, a difference of 5 games. So (5/5) x 3 would be 3 wouldn't it? Or if it's five sets do you just count the 3 sets that he won? |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 11:04 am |
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you are correct, there was an error in the data entry... instead of 28-23, it was recorded as 28-16.
I corrected that. |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 11:05 am |
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| by the way we - do we hav to post our entries for this b4 the tournament starts or can i do it now..... i wasnt aware of it at all..... sounds fun |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 11:11 am |
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| You have to post your team 1 hours before the first match of the tournament.. |
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| Posted: Jun Tue 22, 2010 11:29 am |
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| Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me. I understand it a lot better now. |
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