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Post by Grossefavourite » Sep Tue 11, 2018 11:19 am

The warnings are BS as Azarenka said and should be called out as she did then.
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Post by Ace2Ace » Sep Tue 11, 2018 11:23 am

<font color=brown>@ <b>Grossefavourite</b>:</font>
Tennis not basketball. The male tennis players berate them and much worse all the time with impunity. You see the tapes. The umps just nervously smile as them men attack. At least Roddick, Blake have the balls to say so. His reaction was markedly different, OTT and came at the most precarious time of the match. Very suspicious.

And MJ did in fact express himself strongly at officials, it was just not made a big deal of.
 That's my point. People like MJ know when to stop. Serena doesn't. Because people like you keep defending her tantrums.
When are you going to hold her accountable for her angry behaviors.??? Is she a perfect human being that never made a mistake?
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Post by Graveller » Sep Tue 11, 2018 11:39 am

#ed_op#font color="brown"#ed_cl#@ #ed_op#b#ed_cl#Grossefavourite#ed_op#/b#ed_cl#:#ed_op#/font#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#&nbsp;My biggest "problem" is that there was absolutely no reason to act like that.#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#Most of the times, I can see why a player is protesting, but here?#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#The warning because of the coaching? 100% correct#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#The warning because of the racquet abuse? 100% correct (look at the state of that racquet).#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#And then she exploded.#ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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Post by Grossefavourite » Sep Tue 11, 2018 11:41 am

<font color=brown>@ <b>Ace2Ace</b>:</font>
 
You can't compare team sport with individual sport as it's difficult to hear and see everything that's going on in a team sport, but in an individual, it's more evident and more impactful. It's almost impossible to hear the conversation on a basketball court between players and umps. Tennis, we get almost all of it. Apples and oranges in many many ways.

In any event, clearly the comparison here is between the WTA and the ATP and not between Serena and all of basketball.

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Post by Grossefavourite » Sep Tue 11, 2018 11:42 am

I'm with Novak, Roddick and Blake on this all the way.

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Post by Grossefavourite » Sep Tue 11, 2018 11:44 am

This reminds me of the White cop who allegedly entered an apartment she claimed she truly thought to be hers, only to gun down the actual owner inside, a black male. She claimed he disobeyed warnings....in his own home.

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Post by Grossefavourite » Sep Tue 11, 2018 11:49 am

Funny how Naomi is depicted as White in cartoons.

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Post by Graveller » Sep Tue 11, 2018 11:57 am

#ed_op#font color="brown"#ed_cl#@ #ed_op#b#ed_cl#Grossefavourite#ed_op#/b#ed_cl#:#ed_op#/font#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#&nbsp;#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#When reading all your comments, a wise citation comes to my mind:&nbsp; "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem".#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl#Your polarizing comments are not part of any solution... therefore.... I guess you are smart enough to make the correct conclusion.#ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl##ed_op#/div#ed_cl##ed_op#br#ed_cl#
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Post by Ace2Ace » Sep Tue 11, 2018 12:00 pm

It's cartoon. Isn't "White" considered "pure" in literature? Aren't all angels depicted as White? That may not be true but it's the world we live in. Naomi was pure, classy, respectful. So yes, he drew her as white. It's a cartoon people. it draws feelings and emotion.

I'll call this guy a racist when you show me his previous racist work.

He could have drawn Naomi all White.. White outfit, white hair, white racquet, white shoes, etc ... He could have drawn her looking like an angel, and people would still have issues with it.

I have no problem with whatever is coming out of this. Serena is a veteran player who should know when to stop, like her mom said.
I hope she sits her down like a 2-year old and tells her. We don't want to see this again. Enough ammunition for the haters.
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Post by Ace2Ace » Sep Tue 11, 2018 12:03 pm

Serena should try to play tennis matches without abusing umpires no matter the call. That's all there is to it.
It's human to react to a call. I have no issue with that. But you got to know when to stop.
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