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Posted: Nov Tue 21, 2017 11:47 am       GS: 16 Seeds Only At GS
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The ITF announced several major changes in rules for the upcoming Grand Slam season and for 2019.

The Grand Slam Board approved the Australian Open’s request to use a 25-second serve shot clock for the 2018 event, similar to what the US Open trialed during qualifying in August. The current rule is 20 seconds to serve at Slams.

Also, seedings at Grand Slams will revert back to 16 starting in 2019. There have been 32 seeds at Grand Slam events since 2001 Wimbledon. This should create more compelling early round matches.

With a rash of first round retirements, Grand Slams will now give the injured who pull out on site before their opening match 50% of the first round prize money with the other 50% going to the “lucky loser”.

And players who do perform but are unable to finish their first round match will be scrutinized and potentially fined up to the amount of their first round prize money.

Warm-up will also follow a strict time schedule. One minute for walk-on. Five minutes for warm-up and another one minute to ready for the start of the match.

On-court coaching is still not permitted.

These changes apply to the 4 Grand Slam events only and not to ATP or WTA tournaments.
     
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Posted: Nov Tue 21, 2017 1:41 pm       
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Bad idea to go to 16 seeds...

Nobody is waiting to see Ostapenko vs Kasatkina in R1 on a monday afternoon on day 1.

Or Serena vs Venus in R1
Or Barty vs Halep in R1
or....
     

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Posted: Nov Tue 21, 2017 1:52 pm       
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As if things were not bad enough, when you have Qualifier vs Qualifier and #23 vs #33 in the first round.
should be 64-seed rule.

top-64 should face bottom-64 in the first round.
     


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Posted: Nov Wed 22, 2017 10:28 am       
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@ Ace2Ace:
 
Yes, did not even consider the possibility of #17 meeting #18 etc in R1.......
Basically, it is possible that a top5 player has to play against seven top20 players in order to win the slam.

Someone was obviously not sober when coming up with the idea of going back to the past....

For Slams, it would indeed be good that we start with top64 vs 65-128
And if all the 64 seeds advance, then top32 vs 33-64....

Edit: and for someone like Sharapova, it slightly increases her odds for getting a nice R1 and R2 draw... less chance of having a seeded player in R1/R2... Is that the real reason maybe?
     


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Posted: Nov Wed 22, 2017 3:31 pm       
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yeah. You want to have a system geared to having the top players in the 2nd week, not eliminated in the first round. But here, they are decreasing the chances of top-32 making even Round 2.

Bottom-64 should be forced to prove they are better than some of the top-64... They should not have a R2 match guaranteed by playing each others: WC vs WC, WC vs Q, WC vs #99, #87 vs #76 etc...
We'll reach the 2nd week and we'll see some of the most lopsided matches: untested lower ranked player of a sudden in QF against a top player, losing 6-1 6-1 but collecting a huge paycheck.
Nice idea.. really..
     


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